lol! - i'm from Ohio - while i wouldn't be caught dead at Applebees if i can possibly avoid it when i'm home, i even know a few people who've actually "become fans of" it on Facebook! - and yeah - i'd say the majority of those would be conservatives:) - i do love me my IHOP, though (International House of Pancakes - now especially since after going to Sweden, learning that IHOP's Swedish pancakes with lingonberries really do exsist in Sweden - heheheh) - Jesusland - lol! - he's lucky only around 10 in the audience were conservative - and he HAD to put Ohio State University football fans up there, didn't he!
super interesting talk, Snowy - thanks! - Haidt certainly brought up some solid points to ponder - TedTalks are great - i could sit here all day on that site - oh, wait...
I found this very interesting. I did, however, notice one point on which he is flat out wrong. That would be when he said that outside of humans one does not find large groups of animals working together for the common good. Has this man not heard of insects?
Yes, a lot to digest there. Insects like ants certainly work towards the common good, so it would seem he is wrong there, if that's what he was saying.
There is indeed. It's worth listening to several times (though so far I've only watched it once). I was rather amused to hear him describe conservatives and liberals as "sames" and "differents." John has been using those terms to categorize people for at least as long as I've known him.
while i wouldn't be caught dead at Applebees if i can possibly avoid it when i'm home, i even know a few people who've actually "become fans of" it on Facebook! - and yeah - i'd say the majority of those would be conservatives:)
I prefer to try new restaurants whenever possible and have a definite leaning toward locally owned joints and ethnic foods, but I do find that after a while the constant variety becomes stale and ordinary (too much of anything is bad). I consider visits to Applebee's and the like an opportunity to cleanse the palate. I certainly don't want a steady diet of it, but it's good on occassion (I'll even go so far as to say that I love their tomato basil soup!).
:) - it's one of those places where a lot of the food gets delivered frozen in the back and then is sort of prepared "fresh", just like all the other chains - i've been in Applebees because the people i've been with wanted to go - i'd never go there by choice - Steven and i stay out of these chain places - if we're going to spend money on going out, even if it's not a lot, we want places like the excellent Greek family run place down the block from us in Wellington, or tiny Italian place down the block from us here in Zurich - we're foodies (not in how the restaurant looks like or how expensive it is, but in how good the food is and the quality - there's this total hole-in-the-wall in L.A. that has to-die-for Lebanese food), but like i said, i have a weakness for IHOP every once in a while - we ate so well in Scotland - Steven had looked up these places in Scotland to go eat - and we had an incredible lunch at this place called Three Chimneys on the Isle of Skye - i had no idea wood pigeon or hare could be that heavenly! - it think we hit the gastronomer's paradise on this trip - Steven ate his weight in herring in Sweden:) - i expect when we're in Spain in a couple months, it's gonna be carnage again:) - one thing we're missing here in Switzerland is Asian food - and, we'll be in the states soon and we're visiting all of our favorite restaurants! - ah food - so little time - so much good food:)
hey QFB:) - i was being half cheeky and half serious - mostly, when we go out to eat to clean our palate's we do some kind of asian - japanese or malaysian - but, this all depends on where you live and the variety of food you have available - i know in Ohio, where we lived - all we had available for a long time was American-Chinese for Asian and limited variety for going out - so, we did hit the chain restaurants mostly - and i ate quite happily - for example, it wasn't till six years ago that there was even a sushi place closer than 1/2 hour away from my parent's house - when i went back to the states to visit one time, my best friend had me go with her to try stuff, because she hadn't had sushi ever before and didn't know how to eat it or what to have - i'd been living in Seattle and LA for several years by that time - these days, i have to be a little more picky these days with my stomach problems, but i am not immune to solid, diner food either - something, we are sorely missing in New Zealand - this year, while living in Zurich, going out to eat is so ridiculously expensive that the last place we would go out to dinner would be a place like Applebees - if there was such a thing - on the day or two we do go out to dinner a week, we have become quite picky and chose the best pizza place, our favorite Italian place, or our favorite Swiss place - there's a Chinese place down our block, but the prices are so over-the-top than what we're used to that we've only had Asian food a total of six times in Zurich this year - and in NZ, we have some kind of Asian at least twice a week
ack - we're super foodies - i could talk about food all day - i didn't mean to come off as super snotty - i guess i am a bit of a snob when it comes to food, though - blame my husband - before we visit places, he'll spend hours looking for places to eat on the web - reviews and everything - since we're living in Europe this year, he bought the Michelin book and every country we've visited, he makes sure we have places to get good food at - he's the chef in the family:)
You didn't. Even though I live in the middle of the US we have a surprising variety of high quality ethnic restaurants. I can get Mexican, Italian, Greek, Lebanese, Morrocan, Sushi, Indian, Thai, Vietanmese, Ethiopian, German, and probably more that I can't think of at the moment all within a 15 minute drive of my house. And all of these restaurants are owned and operated by folks who emigrated to here from those locations. That doesn't even mention all the little "Mom and Pop" diners that serve good ol' American food. I'm really quite spoiled when it comes to my choices for food.
My point was that when I'm constantly eating all that really good food it starts to become ordinary. Trying to find something new and exciting becomes very difficult. At times like those I find blah cookie cutter chain restaurants to be just the ticket. You know exactly what you're going to get because it does come precooked and all they have to do is heat it up.
But you're right. What's ordinary and what's exotic all depends upon where you live. When we went to Germany two years ago the very first night there our German friends took us out to a Mongolian BBQ. For them that was very exotic and new. We didn't have the heart to tell them that there's one on every corner around here. And we had trouble convincing them that what we wanted most was a good home cooked German meal.
You know exactly what you're going to get because it does come precooked and all they have to do is heat it up.
that is a very good point:) - and i take advantage of that as well - that's what i go to diner food for! - when i order a patty melt, mashed potatoes and gravy and tapioca pudding, i know exactly what i'm going to get!
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super interesting talk, Snowy - thanks! - Haidt certainly brought up some solid points to ponder - TedTalks are great - i could sit here all day on that site - oh, wait...
Yes, there's much to ponder there, and Jonathan has set my creative juices surging again, so I'm grateful for that.
ack - we're super foodies - i could talk about food all day - i didn't mean to come off as super snotty - i guess i am a bit of a snob when it comes to food, though - blame my husband - before we visit places, he'll spend hours looking for places to eat on the web - reviews and everything - since we're living in Europe this year, he bought the Michelin book and every country we've visited, he makes sure we have places to get good food at - he's the chef in the family:)
My point was that when I'm constantly eating all that really good food it starts to become ordinary. Trying to find something new and exciting becomes very difficult. At times like those I find blah cookie cutter chain restaurants to be just the ticket. You know exactly what you're going to get because it does come precooked and all they have to do is heat it up.
But you're right. What's ordinary and what's exotic all depends upon where you live. When we went to Germany two years ago the very first night there our German friends took us out to a Mongolian BBQ. For them that was very exotic and new. We didn't have the heart to tell them that there's one on every corner around here. And we had trouble convincing them that what we wanted most was a good home cooked German meal.
that is a very good point:) - and i take advantage of that as well - that's what i go to diner food for! - when i order a patty melt, mashed potatoes and gravy and tapioca pudding, i know exactly what i'm going to get!
lol!